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  • 1.  Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-19-2023 08:26
    So I would love for you to weigh in on, is title company responsible for informing buyer of their funding amount? Or is this a lender responsibility? We recently had a buyer call 2 days before closing inquiring as to his required final funds amount. Lender had balanced CD with us the night before. I say night because it was after 5 pm. I asked if Lender had sent him the final CD. No last he received CD was a week earlier. 

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  • 2.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-20-2023 08:31

    The rule says that the creditor must ensure the consumer receives the closing disclosure at least three business days prior to consummation [which responsibility can be delegated to, and assumed by, the settlement agent], but the rule doesn't specify that that CD must be the final CD.  Many things are permitted to change on the CD right up until signing, and I have not found anything in the rule requiring the creditor to tell the borrower, before closing, what their final figure will be. 

     

    If the lender had sent out a CD the week prior, and if, in your final balancing, the only changes to the CD were the kind that are permitted to change after final CD disclosure, then I don't think the lender would be required to get a revised CD to the consumer.   I think they generally do anyway, but I don't think it's required.

     

    Cyndy

     

     

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  • 3.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-20-2023 09:29
    Edited by Jim Moody 10-20-2023 09:29

    "Responsible for"? I'm uncertain. As the Closing Disclosure lies squarely within the lender's purview, it seems that the lender would be responsible for informing the buyer of funds needed at closing. The lender is also the party responsible for verifying those funds are available from acceptable, vetted, sources. That said - I ALWAYS inform my selling agent and buyer of the final amount necessary at closing, and provide my wiring instructions so those funds can be remitted. I do that not because it's my job, per se, but because it certainly makes my job easier. I can't account for a lender or agent's communication or responsiveness, only my own. And, after lo these many years, I absolutely CAN count on the fact that if a buyer shows up for closing having never been informed by the umpteen gazillion professionals charged with informing them, the blame will fall on the title company/closing agent. We are the last folks they see, and therefore all manner of blame comes to rest on us.

    So - after hours, during hours, weekends...if I'm balanced, have docs, and know what they need to bring, I'll reach out and tell them. Saves me a whole lot of time.



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  • 4.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-20-2023 11:17

    We always send the buyer the final figure prior to closing with our instructions for how we will accept funds.  I never rely solely on the lender to make sure the buyer knows how much to bring.



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    Licensed Settlement Agent
    EKKO Title - Ashburn/Centreville
    703-994-3513
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  • 5.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-20-2023 11:27

    Gail,

    I agree with the replies that suggest that no matter what the "rule" is, as a practical matter my office always contacts the buyers to confirm the amount and type of funds.  Now, in fairness, the practice here in Massachusetts is a bit different than a lot of the country, as an "attorney closing " state.  As an attorney my focus is on the complete transaction, from agreements to disbursement, so it is critical that I am sure that the information to the buyers is complete and accurate.  We make the calls and send the emails...

    NELSON EZEN

    SPENCER, MA



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  • 6.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-20-2023 11:37
    Attorney or Agent state, the question remains the same. As I understand it, an Attorney state does not mean that a representational rela tionship exists. No retainer agreement or such. We, still, are a transactional party as in Florida, JD or no, yes? As such, I just make my life as easy as possible. Tell the people the truth, as I know it, when I know it, and try to mitigate confusion. It's just math.

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  • 7.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-23-2023 10:19
    I believe the lender is responsible for this, not the title company. Under the (not so new) TRID regulations, the lender is responsible for producing the final CD. Therefore, it follows that they are responsible for informing the buyer of their cash to close. That being said, I always call the buyer the day before closing and confirm the amount and how they should get their funds (cashier's check, wire, correct name of the title company, etc.). 

    I have never experienced a situation like yours. That would indicate a very poor performance by the loan officer. 


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  • 8.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-23-2023 11:28

    Thanks for responses. I see everyone's point of view in replies. I think lenders skirt around their responsibility to deliver final CD to borrower. 



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  • 9.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-24-2023 08:58

    I'll usually send the buyer the amount needed for the Cashiers check (after I match with the lender CD) along with a copy of their sale for review a day or so before closing, but I also let them know that if the amount needed for closing should change, they can bring a personal check up to the amount of $2,500.00. I found it best to not rely on the Lender to give them the amount needed since if there is a hiccup, the buyer will not be looking to blame the lender but will be looking at the Title Company for dropping the ball.



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  • 10.  RE: Buyer's Funding Amount

    Posted 10-24-2023 11:24
    Although it is the Lender's responsibility, we still send out a "draft" ALTA Settlement Statement once we have matched with the Lender's "final" Buyer Closing Disclosure along with a reminder that we need to receive the Buyer's wire prior to closing. We still require wires because a large number of our Sellers are Relocation companies that require that their funds be wired prior to the Buyer receiving keys to the property. That way we can encourage the Buyers to ask questions about the figures prior to closing. We include the Real Estate Agents just in case they forgot to send a Contract Addendum that impacts the figures. It has allowed us to address any questions, concerns, or oversights prior to closing and has made for smoother closing transactions.

    Kim
     
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    Raber Law Offices, PLLC
    484 Williamsport Pike, PMB #300
    Martinsburg, WV 25404
    Phone: 681-260-6455
    Fax: 304-441-5551
    email: kgt@raberlawoffices.com  
     
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